mysocialbutler.org: Offer, Promotion and Reality - How to Fail in Business

by Rudolf Faix 24. January 2016 08:51

Social Butler LogoYesterday I got a spam entry at my contact form from MySocialButler. I'm not an enemy of spam, but if I get an offer for something what I don't need, because I'm nowhere offering something except the free information about scammers, than I enjoy it to beat back by teasing the spammer.

Let us take first a look what Peter@socialb.com from http://mysocialbutler.org has entered into the contact form at my Fraud-Systems-Blog:

Von: http://mysocialbutler.org [Peter@socialb.com]
Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Januar 2016 16:03
An: Rudolf Faix
Betreff: Fraud Systems e-mail - Let us gain you new clients and sales Via social media for FREE

Hello
I was browsing your site and noticed you could use some help with your social media marketing. I understand its hard to keep on top of social media and that leads to frustration but also leaves a lot of money on the table when you give up on it too soon!
i would like to offer you a 10 day FREE trial of our social marketing services.
We focus on Facebook as a base - but we also work with all of the 5 big platforms out there like Twitter, Instagram and Pinterest. We learn about your business and post content for you to your page that gets you new customers
If you would like to give us a try, you have nothing to lose and customer to gain!
Just visit www.mysocialbutler.org
See you soon!


Author information

Name: http://mysocialbutler.org
E-mail: Peter@socialb.com
IP address: 172.82.175.172
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko

By reading the message above I like to know:

  • Why does he think that I need some help in social media marketing?

  • From which money he writes in the case of my blogs? I'm not offering or selling something. I'm running my blogs only for the one reason of not getting bored.

  • As he writes that MySocialButler is focused on Facebook, where did he find something on my site Fraud & Scam Systems - Blog about fraud and scam systems found at the Internet what can get offered or sold to Facebook members? Maybe I have overseen something or some information can get misinterpreted?

  • As MySocialButler is focused on Facebook, why does he not provide the Facebook address and why does not get MySocialButler found by an search on Facebook?

  • The worst sentence for any business owner and a big marketing fail is "We learn about your business and post content for you to your page that gets you new customers". The spammer and scammer likes to learn in a few days something about a business, where others need to learning years or their full life for it. It seems the scammer is overestimating his own possibilities.

Such an offer, like seen above, seems to be not only a spam. It seems that someone tries to scam hard working people. In any case is it already a big marketing fail. But the fail is even worse if we take a look at some background information which are getting easily provided by using some free tools found at the Internet.

Alexa, an Amazon company, is metering the traffic generated for the websites. Websites, which have a ranking under the 100,000 best visited websites have a plugin from Alexa where the traffic gets counted and sites ranking above 100,000 are estimated from the traffic of users, which are using the Alexa browser plugin and some other parameters. In any case gives the Alexa traffic ranking a good overview about the visitors for a domain.

If we take a look at the Alexa ranking from mysocialbutler.org than we see the very impressing message:

We don't have enough data to rank this website.

That means nobody is visiting the website from mysocialbutler.org. How someone can offer an Internet or social marketing service when he is not able to promote his own website? Who will so stupid in such a case and order some services from such a company like mysocialbutler.org?

How easy it is to generate traffic for a website can get shown by my own example. I'm the owner of the domain wwpa.eu too. I have been running on this site offers for my VoIP provider business in Austria. I have sold this business around 5 years ago. I only did not change the content of the site because I did not had any idea what I shall do with this domain. This behavior resulted in an Alexa ranking of over 1,000,000. Some people visited the site from the Google search results. The old content is until now available. On October 15, 2015 I got the idea that I still have a database of jokes in German language available and I decided to publish a few of these jokes in a blog with the address witze.wwpa.eu. Only this action boosted the Alexa ranking of the domain wwpa.eu to actually 684,151:

Alexa ranking of wwpa.eu

Additional is the ownership of the domain mysocialbutler.org hidden. The owner is using a privacy protection service to hide his registration data. That shows us that the offer is not coming from a serious company - it is coming from a private person, which likes to get rich quickly without doing something. The domain registration data of mysocialbutler.org:

Domain Name: MYSOCIALBUTLER.ORG
Domain ID: D177421886-LROR
WHOIS Server:
Referral URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 2015-11-15T03:45:54Z
Creation Date: 2015-09-15T17:23:18Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2016-09-15T17:23:18Z
Sponsoring Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 146
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited https://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited https://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Registrant ID: CR204507645
Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Registrant City: Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: mysocialbutler.org@domainsbyproxy.com
Admin ID: CR204507647
Admin Name: Registration Private
Admin Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Admin Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Admin Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Admin City: Scottsdale
Admin State/Province: Arizona
Admin Postal Code: 85260
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.4806242598
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: mysocialbutler.org@domainsbyproxy.com
Tech ID: CR204507646
Tech Name: Registration Private
Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Tech Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Tech Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Tech City: Scottsdale
Tech State/Province: Arizona
Tech Postal Code: 85260
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.4806242598
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: mysocialbutler.org@domainsbyproxy.com
Name Server: NS35.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS36.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-01-23T03:02:53Z <<<

Each normal person, which is interested in any Internet or Social Marketing Solutions, would already put the message into the spam folder or simple delete it. But if we continue the investigations then we see that the fun is even coming better. The spammer has sent his message by providing an email address from the domain socialb.com.

If we open the website from socialb.com whe see the impressing offer that the domain is may be for sale:

Website socialb.com with the message; "This domain may be for sale"

Even the poor content of the website socialb.com has with 22,938,034 a better Alexa Traffic Rank than mysocialbutler.org:

Alexa ranking of socialb.com showing a ranking of 22,938,034

It seems to be that the owner of the site socialb.com failed already with the content of the site, because why else he would like to sell his domain? The formerly page title from the site socialb.com has been: Find Cash Advance, Debt Consolidation and more at Socialb.com. Get the best of Insurance

The domain ownership of socialb.com is hidden by a privacy protection service. Here are the domain registration data from socialb.com:

Domain Name: socialb.com
Registry Domain ID: 245975371_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namesilo.com
Registrar URL: https://www.namesilo.com/
Updated Date: 2016-01-17
Creation Date: 2005-11-02
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-11-02
Registrar: NameSilo, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 1479
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@namesilo.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6024928198
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Domain Administrator
Registrant Organization: See PrivacyGuardian.org
Registrant Street: 1928 E. Highland Ave. Ste F104 PMB# 255
Registrant City: Phoenix
Registrant State/Province: AZ
Registrant Postal Code: 85016
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.3478717726
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: pw-5158814b4f1b40894fad9553eef8d7b4@privacyguardian.org
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Domain Administrator
Admin Organization: See PrivacyGuardian.org
Admin Street: 1928 E. Highland Ave. Ste F104 PMB# 255
Admin City: Phoenix
Admin State/Province: AZ
Admin Postal Code: 85016
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.3478717726
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: pw-5158814b4f1b40894fad9553eef8d7b4@privacyguardian.org
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Domain Administrator
Tech Organization: See PrivacyGuardian.org
Tech Street: 1928 E. Highland Ave. Ste F104 PMB# 255
Tech City: Phoenix
Tech State/Province: AZ
Tech Postal Code: 85016
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.3478717726
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: pw-5158814b4f1b40894fad9553eef8d7b4@privacyguardian.org
Name Server: dns5.name-services.com
Name Server: dns4.name-services.com
Name Server: dns1.name-services.com
Name Server: dns2.name-services.com
Name Server: dns3.name-services.com
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the CANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
Last update of WHOIS database: 2016-01-23 18:01:09

At least now 99.9% from the receivers of such a spam message, like Peter@socialb.com has sent out, would trash it without further investigations. This shows that marketing is a foreign word for the site owner from MySocialButler. Maybe he has heard somewhere that marketing is a business and tries now to make money with this information. But everybody can see what he can expect from such marketing skills as the site owner is even not able to promote and generate traffic for his own site. You'll pay for getting nothing in return!

Ok, the domain mysocialbutler.org is nothing else than a forwarding service for the domain mysocialbutler.net, but if we take a look at the Alexa traffic statistics from mysocialbutler.net than we see that even this website does not generate an impressing traffic:

Alexa statistics from mysocialbutler.net

Remember the values from my own German jokes site. The above values are calculated on the result of (Alexa - How engaged are visitors to mysocialbutler.net?):

Bounce Rate: 62.50%
Daily Pageviews per Visitor: 1.70
Daily Time on Site: 1:48

If we take a look at the warnings from ScamAdviser about the site mysocialbutler.net than we see that the site is not really a serious one:

AlertLow Trust Rating. This Site May Not Be Safe to Use.
Site is United States United States based , But The Real Location Is Being Hidden
AlertThe owner of the website is using a service to hide their identity
AlertHigh Number Of Suspicous Websites On This Server (check the server tab)
AlertThis website is 145 Days old
AlertThe website expected life (366 days) is relatively short.
AlertThe website appears to be less than six months old

Like all other untrustworthy websites and domains is mysocialbutler.net hiding the domain ownership by using a privacy protection service:

Domain Name: MYSOCIALBUTLER.NET
Registry Domain ID: 1956731606_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: WHOIS.ENOM.COM
Registrar URL: WWW.ENOM.COM
Update Date: 2015-09-01T11:45:53.00Z
Creation Date: 2015-09-01T11:44:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-09-01T11:44:00.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: ABUSE@ENOM.COM
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
Reseller: Namecheap.com
Domain Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Registrant Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Registrant Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Registrant Street:
Registrant City: PANAMA
Registrant State/Province: PANAMA
Registrant Postal Code: 00000
Registrant Country: PA
Registrant Phone: +507.8365503
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +51.17057182
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: F352087B38224CBAA8D269AC6AE9B85E.PROTECT@WHOISGUARD.COM
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Admin Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Admin Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Admin Street:
Admin City: PANAMA
Admin State/Province: PANAMA
Admin Postal Code: 00000
Admin Country: PA
Admin Phone: +507.8365503
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +51.17057182
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: F352087B38224CBAA8D269AC6AE9B85E.PROTECT@WHOISGUARD.COM
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Tech Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Tech Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Tech Street:
Tech City: PANAMA
Tech State/Province: PANAMA
Tech Postal Code: 00000
Tech Country: PA
Tech Phone: +507.8365503
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +51.17057182
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: F352087B38224CBAA8D269AC6AE9B85E.PROTECT@WHOISGUARD.COM
Name Server: NS1.GYPSYTRIPSY.COM
Name Server: NS2.GYPSYTRIPSY.COM
DNSSEC:UNSIGNED
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:
HTTP://WDPRS.INTERNIC.NET/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database:2015-09-01T04:44:38.00Z <<<

Summary: All what you can expect from MySocialButler is that you lose money for getting nothing in return. It can be that you get some copied content from other websites with all risks. You need to hope that the content is completely rewritten, otherwise you'll see how the major search engines will rank you down. For such a useless service you have to pay monthly $197, $297 or $995 depending on the count of social network sites and on the count of copied articles. If you are lucky you'll reach the same traffic ranking like MySocialButler where 62.5% of the user are escaping as soon as they have seen the first page and the remaining users are gone in average from your site after 1 minute and 48 seconds.

Update January 28, 2016: Today, I got the same message again by using my contact form. As I have been looking at their site I have seen the best promotion ever:

Something like that can happen too, if you like to use the services from mysocialbutler.net. In such a case you can start from the beginning again. The best recommendation is avoid such services coming from script kiddies and amateurs.

Update Jan. 18, 2017: Links to mysocialbutler.org and to socialb.com removed as the domains don't not exist anymore.

 

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