The Truth about Paid to Click (PTC) by the example of buxvertise.com

by Rudolf Faix 15. November 2015 12:24

Screenshot buxvertise.combuxvertise.com tries to impress with "Earn Extra Cash Online" promotion their users. They have written by themselves at their start page that they have paid in total $428,037.70 to their 244,469 members. That is in average around $1.7509 (one dollar and seventyfive cents) for each member since they started at April 17, 2014 - 19 month ago. One dollar seventyfive cents is very impressing for their members in a time range of 19 months. The most people are giving a higher tip to a waiter as buxvertise.com calls an "Earn Extra"! Maybe they are shaming themselves for this low payout and are hiding for this reason their domain ownership by a privacy protection service.

If we take a look at their membership site then we see that the maximum earning per day is $0.0121. In their FAQ's they are declaring that the minimum payout is $7. If we divide the $7 by a daily earning of $0.121 then we see that you maybe get a cash-out after 579 days. These facts are they calling "The only Paid-to-Click Service you'll ever need". I think they have in their slogan a type mismatch. They have forgotten the letter "N" in front of the word "ever"!

Here the screenshots from the member area of buxvertise.com: 

Screenshot buxvertise.com member area - Fixed Advertisements part 1

Screenshot buxvertise.com member area - Fixed Advertisements part 2

Screenshot buxvertise.com member area - Buxvertise Ads

Worse is it coming if you are looking at the mebership upgrade table. Let us calculate that you earn $0.0121 per day as a "free member" * 365 days then you are earning $4.4165 per year. If you pay a membership fee for the "Buxer" of $55/year (yearly payment) you'll earn 150% of the free member - also nearly $6.6248 (six dollars) and make a loss of more than $48.75 per year. Worse is it with the membership fee for the "Eternity" member, which is $380/year (yearly payment) and pays only double of the "free member" - in this case you lose $371,17 per year ($380 membership fee - $4.4165 * 2 = $371.167). I call such offers simple SCAM because you cannot find so many referrals that you can come into winnings, because even the direct referrals are limited and nobody will visit the site daily for a maximum earning of $0.0242 ("Eternity" mamber for the case that you can find someone which is so stupid to work and to pay for getting nothing in return).

Buxvertise membership table:

Screenshot buxvertise.com membership table

Domain registration data of buxvertise.com:

Domain Name: BUXVERTISE.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1855090184_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: WHOIS.ENOM.COM
Registrar URL: WWW.ENOM.COM
Update Date: 2015-04-10T13:37:47.00Z
Creation Date: 2014-04-17T12:14:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2018-04-17T12:14:00.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: ABUSE@ENOM.COM
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
Reseller: Namecheap.com
Domain Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Registrant Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Registrant Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Registrant Street:
Registrant City: PANAMA
Registrant State/Province: PANAMA
Registrant Postal Code: 00000
Registrant Country: PA
Registrant Phone: +507.8365503
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +51.17057182
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: 1C2F9BFEDBE640D79D8D1Fe7EB73DCB4.PROTECT@whoisguard.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Admin Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Admin Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Admin Street:
Admin City: PANAMA
Admin State/Province: PANAMA
Admin Postal Code: 00000
Admin Country: PA
Admin Phone: +507.8365503
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +51.17057182
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: 1C2F9BFEDBE640D79D8D1Fe7EB73DCB4.PROTECT@whoisguard.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Tech Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Tech Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Tech Street:
Tech City: PANAMA
Tech State/Province: PANAMA
Tech Postal Code: 00000
Tech Country: PA
Tech Phone: +507.8365503
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +51.17057182
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: 1C2F9BFEDBE640D79D8D1Fe7EB73DCB4.PROTECT@whoisguard.com
Name Server: MARIA.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: RUDY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
DNSSEC:UNSIGNED
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System:
HTTP://WDPRS.INTERNIC.NET/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database:2014-04-17T05:14:09.00Z <<<

 

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Paid to Click (PTC) provider hqbux.com after 2 months already bankrupt

by Rudolf Faix 6. November 2015 10:59

For the case that hqbux.com has not been created for scamming people they are after two months already bankrupt. I think more that all the PTC sites, which are selling adpacks or giving referrals for rent, are running only a Ponzi scheme. With other words the members, which signed up earlier are getting paid from the membership fees of the new joining members. Such a system breaks down as soon as not enough new paid members are signing up. In the case of hqbux.com has been coming the breakdown very early. It shows that they even did not know how to make a marketing of their own site.

Advertising companies are not investing into PTC, because they don't like to trash money. They like to get as much as possible return for their advertisements. A PTC user is only looking at the advertisements because he gets paid for it. Such a user will not come a customer. If you are looking at some PTC providers then you'll see only the advertisements from other PTC sites and from some sites, which are getting some free impressions. If you are looking at the domain creation dates, then you'll find very seldom a PTC site, which is older than one year and all of them are using a domain privacy service for hiding the domain ownership. If someone is investing money into such a shame business then he is guilty by himself if he is losing money. Nobody should be so stupid and trust only to the promotion of the site where ROI's (Return of Investment) in a short time and earnings of 150% and more offered. Would it be true then nobody would do some normal work and the manhood will die from hunger.

That the investment promises are even not worth the time to read gets shown if we take a look at the promotion of another and olcer PTC site with the name Buxvertise. Buxvertise has written on their page that they have 240,674 members which earned $420,047.15. The sum is nice, but if we take a closer look then have in average each member until now earned $1.7453 - less than one dollar and seventyfive cents! The domain buxvertise.com is 1 year and 200 days old.

A similar result we'll get if we are looking at the promotion from ultimateclix.com. At their own promotion is written that they have 161,081 members and have paid $267,367.44 to them. That is in average $1.6598 for each member since February 2014!

If someone invests money into such a business then he should go first into a madhouse for a check-up. I think they will keep him there.

We'll find a post at the forum of hqbux.com (http://www.hqbux.com/forum.php?topic=56033&orderby=date&sortby=ASC&p=15) October 27, 2015 10:01 followed from a lot of flames of their members:

Dear HQBux Members,

It is with an upset and discouraged heart that I announce to you all that as of yesterday, my PayPal accounts became limited. I missed their call, but I received their email and it stated:

Quote:
As part of our commitment to providing the best possible experience for buyers and sellers, we perform routine reviews of merchant accounts.
Your account has recently been reviewed by our merchant team due to the following:
- Increase in volumes processed
- Increase in buyer claims/chargebacks/refunds
- Change in business activity
- New processing activity
We tried to call you on 25/10/2015, but we couldn't reach you. To allow time to review this in more detail, we've temporarily limited what you can do with your account until you submit the information you need to provide and take the actions listed.

PayPal is limiting accounts only if there is something suspicious happening. Each payment processor and each bank has a fraud detection system to protect their own service. As more problems with one account are coming up as earlier the alarm bells are ringing. In the case of hqbux.com is even the above statement only an excuse and not really the reason as we see from the posting from other members:

Posted 2015-10-27 at 10:23 by decogen002:

Because admin delay payment should they haven't the patience. TOS up to 7 days payment but you don't processing, delay more 7 days. Since Oct 1 I not receive any payment, payza payment cancel twice, paypal payment delay. Yesterday instantly payza payment but only 1 day, i can't cashout because i must waiting more 1 day. I invested 430$, received 9$. I very disappointed. Sorry for my english.

That the PayPal problems are only a put-off shows us the next posting. There is a member, which got paid each time from a different PayPal account. For the case if PayPal has really limited one account of hqbux.com remains the question: Why they are not using another account for paying the members? Each trusted businessman will try to keep up his reputation by doing everything to have happy members. As soon as the promised service (payment) will not come to the members the members will destroy the reputation of the business.

Posted 2015-10-30 at 02:55 by bearbux

I agree that many sites has been destroyed by members.
But in your case it is only your fault.
I have received 5 payments, and all 5 from different PayPal accounts. It absolutely against all PayPal rules. This what are you doing is ridiculous. They will not restore your account. Say goodbye.

How stupid the users of the Internet are is shown by the posts from the user Falkonety. He has invested into an anonymous site, which is less than two months old $800. He is guilty by himself for his loss, because he has nothing where he can make a claim. He even does not know with whom he has made a business and in which country the scammer is to find. He knows that "a lot of PTC sites are SCAM" and invests $800 into an anonymous service:

Posted 2015-10-27 at 15:25 by Falkonety

In the last time a lot of PTC sites transform in to SCAM . you can't tell anyoane to close dispute with Paypal if you don't payd them. for example with buxept i was invested $800 and now is a scam site , if i was closing all the claims to paypal now $800 will be gone from my pocket. nomebody can't trust nomebody. it's hard time , and i hope nowone will close paypal claims because we don't know if you will run with money like others.

I hope you will resolve by yourself and protect your own site. disable instant payments and review all your next payments

And the last thing PAY US , SINCE 2 OR 3 WEEKS AGO WE TRY TO CASHOUT WITHOUT RESULTS.

I HOPE YOU WILL NOT DISSAPOINTING US LIKE OTHERS ptc SITES

Posted 2015-10-27 at 18:40 by Falkonety

ADMIN THE LAST QUESTION BECAUSE I LOST ALREADY A LOT OF MONEY TO PROMOTE YOUR SITE , EVEN YOU DON'T PAY US FOR REFERRAL CONTEST , I CAN'T MAKE ANY CASHOUT ..... WHEN YOU WILL PAY US , BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T PAY IN THE NEXT 4 DAYS I WILL MAKE A CLAIM TO PAYPAL.

I'M SEEK AND TIRED FOR ADMIN COMPLAINS , BUXEPT NOW SCAM , CLIXMANSION NOW SCAM AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE ....

I HAVE TICKET SUPPORT , NO ANSWER AND IS NOT ABOUT PAYMENTS , WHEN WE RECEIVE OUR MONEY FROM YOUR CONTEST AND WHEN YOU WILL PAY US

Here are the domain registration data. The domain got created on August 2, 2015 and from the above postings we know that they could not pay their members since the begin of October:

Domain Name: HQBUX.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1950622184_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2015-08-02T08:40:42Z
Creation Date: 2015-08-02T08:40:42Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2020-08-02T08:40:42Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Registrant City: Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: HQBUX.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Registration Private
Admin Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Admin Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Admin Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Admin City: Scottsdale
Admin State/Province: Arizona
Admin Postal Code: 85260
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: +1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.4806242598
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: HQBUX.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Registration Private
Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Tech Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Tech Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Tech City: Scottsdale
Tech State/Province: Arizona
Tech Postal Code: 85260
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.4806242598
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: HQBUX.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Name Server: ARYA.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: WEST.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-11-02T23:00:00Z <<<

Update November 12, 2015: hqbux.com is now a confirmed scammer site. They have turned now off their forum that you are not able to read their own warning. With other words they are now scamming intentionally. The public prosecutor will be happy about this action!

If you click at the link "Please read up on HQBux's Latest News and Updates!! (Updated 10/27/2015)" you'll get redirected to the startpage of hqbux.com (http://www.hqbux.com/index.php).

It seems that the scammer does not believe that his game with this site is already over! That the cheated users cannot find him he uses a privacy protection service for the domain hqbux.com.

 

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