Scammer: ShoeMoney - Jeremy Shoemaker - cheats already for US$1, what will happen with higher sums?

by Rudolf Faix 20. August 2015 10:29

ShowMoneyShoeMoney needed 10 days for answering a complaint that their software has a bug and their Facebook share detection and their promised payout is not working. Their answer shows that they are not interested in it. We know that scammer are lazy for this they are inventing some advertisements with promises of high earnings for selling you something useless. They are even not interested in fulfilling their misleading promotions. For this they lie all the time.

I can only recommend to everybody: Don't trust any advertisement. If someone promises you something than don't continue to spend some money before you got the promises fulfilled.

The fraud of the advertisement is already planned in the system. I don't know any other reason why they lie already in their support answer. I have no reason to sign-up many times at their system. I have seen already enough by the one time I signed up for writing my report found at "ShoeMoney - Jeremy Shoemaker: misleading promotion for getting access to Paypal accounts?". The answer from Amanda Hutch from shoemoney.com confirms only the fraud in their system. If I would have more accounts at their site, then they needed to have paid at least the first time, but my Paypal account received during the last 3 years only the payments from Uento!

This shows the poor situation of the affiliate/MLM marketing. This market is already down and some people are trying with unbelievable advertisings to find a few stupid people, which are believing into their promotion. The same gets found here at ShoeMoney. To promote their own system they are promising you the heaven on earth but they are even not able to fulfill their US$1 promise for a Facebook and/or Twittershare. I think that the Facebook share detection is working, but they even like to get more promotion for their US$1. I'll recomment everybody to delete the sharing from ShoeMoney from your timeline and Twitter pages.

The misleading promotion from the ShoeMoney website:

Screenshot of the misleading promotion from the ShoeMoney website


They like to sell you only some hosting and systems as we can read at my previous report about ShoeMoney. With this action they have destroyed the little bit of their reputation they had until now. My opinion is that they are nothing else than fraudster and scammer. I don't believe them anything what is coming from their site!

The email from ShoeMoney:

ShoeMoney Network <amanda@shoemoney.com>

20:35 (vor 10 Stunden)
 
an mich
 
 
Rudolf,

Good afternoon.

The reason you have not received your rewards in your account is because I show you have multiple accounts with the network.

This is against our Terms of Service to have two accounts.

Thanks!

--
Amanda Hutch
Client Specialist
amanda@shoemoney.com

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:33 PM CDT, Rudolf Faix <rudolffaix@gmail.com> wrote:

The announced $1 did not arrive at my Paypal account until now. Are you only collecting Paypal addresses?


On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:03 PM CDT, Rudolf Faix <rudolffaix@gmail.com> wrote:

The Facebook share detection is not working


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WHAFF - fake and misleading promotion

by Rudolf Faix 17. August 2015 12:08

WHAFFA Facebook advertisement of the scammer Jason White brought the app WHAFF into my focus. Everything what seems to good to be true is not true. The promotion for WHAFF is free invented: 

Jason White
August 15 at 8:50pm

Instant $10 in your paypal account
No investment just follow below details
Download WHAFF Rewards.
Earn Real Money by Android mobile
You can spend 1 hour daily.Daily Earn $20 - $40
Download Whaff Reward App from Play store
Click Here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details

Instructions:
1. After install, log in with facebook
Wait for few second automatically open a dialog box and Enter the code.
2. Enter Code AY19070 ( We both earn $10 )
3. Download and get the all reward $
4. Exchange $ to PayPal, Google Gift card or any other

Don't worry friends see the payment proof also

Guys Try it and see within one months you will be able to earn $500-$1000

Instead of earning $10 for signing up, you get $0.30. Instead of earning $20 - $40 per day, you need to be happy if you are earning $0.20 per day. You need only take a look at the offers in WHAFF and you'll get it that even $0.20 will be a high earning. An earning from your referrals is not foreseen like we can see on the following screen-shot:
WHAFF invite screen

Even the attached payment proof is a fake. At the payment proof we can see a payment of $10, but WHAFF does not pay $10 - the minimum payment is in every case higher:
WHAFF payout screen

While others are paying within a few minutes WHAFF hopes that they are able to find during three days a reason to decline the payment. That does not make them to a trustful company. Additional are they hiding their domain registration behind a privacy protection service:

Domain Name: WHAFF.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1634189136_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Update Date: 2015-01-10T11:43:47Z
Creation Date: 2011-01-09T19:05:37Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-01-09T19:05:37Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Registrant City: Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: WHAFF.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Registration Private
Admin Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Admin Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Admin Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Admin City: Scottsdale
Admin State/Province: Arizona
Admin Postal Code: 85260
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: +1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.4806242598
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: WHAFF.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Registration Private
Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Tech Street: DomainsByProxy.com
Tech Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Tech City: Scottsdale
Tech State/Province: Arizona
Tech Postal Code: 85260
Tech Country: United States
Tech Phone: +1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.4806242598
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: WHAFF.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Name Server: PDNS05.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: PDNS06.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2015-08-17T1:00:00Z <<<

If you visit their website and click at "SignIn" or "SignUp" then you get the message "The page whaff.com says: Comming Soon". It looks for me as the domain got registered January 2011 that this menu entry is comming soon since more than 4.5 years and did not arrive until now.

All the above facts are making the promotion (app description) of WHAFF in the Google Playstore to a bad joke:

More Cash, More Offers, the Best Rewards from WHAFF

Move aside! The best rewards app ever is here!
Do you need to buy Gems and Coins for your favorite games right now? Are you running out of pocket money for online shopping? More beermoney? We are here to help!
Check out the coolest and latest apps available on Android. Choose the ones you like and try them out! We’ll actually give you real cash, real money, real rewards for your actions!

Enjoy the highest payout and the biggest rewards now.
It’s easy as 1! 2! 3!

★WHAFF Rewards

  1. Simply Download an app to get Installation Bonus!
  2. Keep the apps on your device for extra Rewards!
  3. Run and Play the apps for more Points!
  4. Get Extra Bonus for completing your tasks (for some)!

★How to Start

  1. Login to WHAFF Rewards with your Facebook account.
  2. Check out cool apps and download your choices
  3. Download, Keep, Play, and Run them to build up extra rewards and request payout when you have minimum amount built up! You can redeem your rewards with real cash or cool gift cards online!

For any questions or comments, feel free to contact us at: SUPPORT@WHAFF.COM
We ‘reward’ you big for your ‘actions’!

★WARNING
The following actions are strictly prohibited:

  1. Using VPN or any other ways to gain fraudulent access to WHAFF.

  2. Putting your Invite Code on online reviews. Please don’t exploit invitations feature.

  3. Using multiple IDs with one device and/or using multiple devices with one ID. IMEI Changers and other ID emulators will get you banned permanently.

  4. Spamming invitations. Don’t exploit! Invite active users who will actually use our app.
    Leave a clear trail of your fair promotions.

Those who engage in the prohibited actions above will get banned and credits will be forfeited.

Your Number 1 choice for Best Rewards!
WHAFF

 The actual app offers from WHAFF:

WHAFF offer WHAFF offer

WHAFF offer WHAFF offer

WHAFF offer WHAFF offer

If you are able to install all the above apps than you are easily able to calculate your daily earnings.

Instead of the app Anne Galing the app Clash of Kings get selected from the Playstore without any rewards for installing it.

You should have at least a virus/spyware scanner like 360 Security running on your phone, which warns you from malware in realtime.

You'll find the same apps with the same installation recognition problems at WHAFF Picks, which are already at Cash Pirate listed at Sponsor Pay.

 

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ShoeMoney - Jeremy Shoemaker: misleading promotion for getting access to Paypal accounts?

by Rudolf Faix 12. August 2015 14:07

ShoeMoneyMisleading promotion is well-known from the affiliate and MLM marketing companies. By promoting large income opportunities they try to pull out your hard earned money from your pocket. ShoeMoney is not different in this case. I think ShoeMoney is even more worse than others.

Jeremy Shoemaker promises in his videos after signing up to shoemoney.net for sharing a link on Facebook $1 as payment. The problem is already that his program is not able verifying the link. The alternate way is to share it on Twitter. This seems to work for his program. Verifying the Paypal account works too. His transfer of $1 to your Paypal account is already not working. A rogue who thinks is the evil of it.

I'll reccommend everybody, which made the same experience than me to delete the Tweet and the Facebook posting with the Shoemoney link because you have done it in believing the misleading promotion of Jeremy Shoemaker. Even the verification access to your Paypal account should get removed (found at https://www.paypal.com/webapps/auth/identity/myactivity?execution=e1s2). It does not matter how much the value is you got promised. The behavior of Jeremy Shoemaker itself shows that he is not a trustful business partner. His words are nothing else than hot air or with other words who lies once cannot get trusted any more. If someone lies already for a small amount, what he will do if the amount is big?

It is not a big loss if ShoeMoney is not trustful. They only like to sell you a website for promoting their own services. You get a few percents of their sales. That means if ShoeMoney is not successful they are saving at least the hosting costs of their website, because you have to pay it in any case. That is the business model of ShoeMoney: You have in any case the costs and if they like than they let you earn a little bit. You'll not be able to have any controll about your sales and Jeremy Shoemaker is cheating you already for US$1!

Here we can see that the link shoemoney.net is public shared at my wall at Facebook: 

Facebook timeline Rudolf Faix

The site ShoeMoney.net does not recognize it and offers for this sharing it on Twitter. As we know from before it can be a trick for getting more attention too. I think more about the second possibility:

ShoeMoney - tricks you for publishing their ads on Twitter too

You can see here where you need to spend money and what you get by participating at the program of ShoeMoney. I have stopped at the moment as I needed to buy space for a website from a provider, which has less bandwith available than my own company in Europe. As you cannot continue to the next step without buying you can guess who will earn money: Jeremy Shoemaker. You can even expect that you have to pay for services, which you can get from other sites for free:

Instead off earning you have to spend money

ShoeMoney - instead of earn you have to spend money

ShoeMoney - spending instead of earning

 

The registration data of the domain shoemoney.net:

Domain Name: shoemoney.net
Registry Domain ID: 462600946_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.moniker.com
Registrar URL: http://www.moniker.com
Updated Date: 2015-05-15T03:09:57.0Z
Creation Date: 2006-05-26T22:27:19.0Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2024-05-26T22:27:19.0Z
Registrar: Moniker Online Services LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 228
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Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.9546071294
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Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Jeremy Schoemaker
Registrant Organization: ShoeMoney Media INC
Registrant Street: 6235 Black Forest Drive
Registrant City: Lincoln
Registrant State/Province: NE
Registrant Postal Code: 68516
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4023065750
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: jeremy@shoemoney.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Jeremy Schoemaker
Admin Organization: ShoeMoney Media INC
Admin Street: 6235 Black Forest Drive
Admin City: Lincoln
Admin State/Province: NE
Admin Postal Code: 68516
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.4023065750
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: jeremy@shoemoney.com
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Jeremy Schoemaker
Tech Organization: ShoeMoney Media INC
Tech Street: 6235 Black Forest Drive
Tech City: Lincoln
Tech Postal Code: 68516
Tech State/Province: NE
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.4023065750
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: jeremy@shoemoney.com
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Suspicious Sites

BitGold confirms that they are offering services which they are not able to fulfill

by Rudolf Faix 1. August 2015 06:52

gold barsBitGold support is confirming in their email that not one of their team is speaking German, but on their own site they are offering a German speaking support and they have a website in German too. Already this is a misleading promotion. How will they answer such a call? I think it will not take a long time if they are getting fined from the competition bureau of the European Union for their misleading marketing practice.

Lets start from the beginning. I have sent them a request for canceling my membership:

Hello

Please delete my account. The German translation is not understandable - it
is nothing than plain shit what is written there. Changing to English
resulted in the for me not understandable language Svenska. As your
business seems to be in reality from Eastern Europe or India, which is
hosting their services at the Amazon cloud and even have no own servers and
security systems is your company not trustful. Not one bank in Europe is
using a public hosting provider for their own services.

Additional I signed up by a misleading promotion, which did not get
fulfilled!

best regards
Rudolf Faix

Instead of disabling my account immeditely I got the following response:

JUL 24, 2015  |  04:30PM EDT
Ben replied:

We regret to hear of your intentions to cancel your account. We can certainly fulfill your request, but before we do so, can you please answer the following three questions:

1. Did you find BitGold’s TOS policy to be fair and equitable?

2. What are your views on BitGold’s gold prices?

3. Why are you closing your BitGold Act.?

We hope you reconsider using the platform in the future.

Regards,
Benjamin A. Smith
Vice President, Customer Success
www.bitgold.com

support@bitgold.com ~ 1-800-854-7418

My answer has been a link to my previous article about BitGold:

JUL 24, 2015  |  07:11PM EDT
Rudolf replied:

Hi Ben

There are a lot of reasons why I cancel my account directly after signing
up. You can find a few of them at:
http://affiliates.wwpa.com/post/2015/07/24/BitGold-Inc-very-suspicious-will-they-burst-like-a-bubble.aspx

That has been only the first impression. What will I find all if I'm
starting making a real background check?

best regards
Rudolf

In their following answer we see that they know about the problems of the translation from their own site. The question is only why they not solve this problems? They are only writing that they are working on it - until now they even did not change something and it takes only a few hours to fix the translation. Do they not have enough money? It is their own reputation which gets destroyed if they let the content online. We find the same money saving action in their referral program confirmed in their email:

Type your response ABOVE THIS LINE to reply
Rudolf Faix
Subject: Re: Email Verification

JUL 27, 2015  |  09:19AM EDT
Melanie Tyler replied:

Hi Rudolf,

We are sorry to hear you had a bad experience. I’d like to address some of the concerns you brought up in your article to provide better clarification. Firstly, we are very sorry about the translation issue. We are based in Toronto, Canada, and no one on our team speaks German. I will be completely honest – we had contracted the translation out to a translation company in Europe and have since heard (especially for the German version of the site) that a lot of it does not make sense. We are currently in the process of having this corrected and apologize for any inconvenience or confusion this may have caused.

Our Golden Heart referral program and affiliate program are not lotteries, as your article suggested. The amounts are different in each region based on the usage we are seeing from each country, so that is why we advise users that their reward may vary. We cannot control how users advertise the program on social media, but the affiliates Facebook page (“BitGold Affiliate Program”) and your personal Golden Heart referral page are the best sources on information about each promotion.

If we can provide more information for you, we would be happy to do so. If you would still like to delete your account, we can also do that for you.

Kind regards,

Melanie

VP of Customer Success
BitGold Inc.
Phone: (647) 977 9004 | Fax: (647) 499 4435 | Toll-free 1800 854 7418
melanie@bitgold.com | www.bitgold.com 

The above email shows that BitGold even does not understand their self-induced problems. It shows that they are working according to the motto: "We're saving - cost what it may". My answer to this email has been accordingly:

How you can say that your referral program is not a lottery?
In my case is it already a lottery at which place I'm at the moment or which address I use for signing up. I have a company in New York, Vienna/Austria and in Manila/Philippines. Depending on which place I'm or signing up I get a different handling.
 
I even cannot promote your system because of your different promises. My market is the German and English speaking part of the world. I'm not able to offer something from your company without getting called to be scammer or liar from one or more parts of the world.
Do you see now the problem?
 
As your company is not able to understand international marketing you are proving that you even not understand something from your own business. Who shall trust you in this case if you fail already during your marketing process?
 
Sorry, but my own reputation is more important than your first steps in learning how an international marketing is working.
 
Don't forget if you are reaching the wrong people like me and there are a lot of them available at the world, than a handful of these people can be your ruin. In such a case the best promotion will not help you.
 
That you cannot control how people are advertising your system in the social media is true, but it has been your decision to let people advertise your service and you have to accept the result. It is your reputation which is going down together with the advertisers reputation. With other words is it for you not an excuse because you have started it and this without thinking about the consequences. Even this shows that you have no experienced people in your company. Maybe all of your staff is coming directly from the school or you are saving money by hiring under graduated ones.
 
As you have confirmed that not one at your company is speaking German, how do you handle callers at your support hotline if I'm calling the German support with the number +49-69-204575283, which is only an extension?

Summary: As I have decribed at the article "BitGold Inc. - very suspicious - will they burst like a bubble?" confirms the email from BitGold that everything at their systems is quick, cheap and dirty. The same methods we find in their support as they are offering something which they are not able to fulfill. Not one of their systems, which is visible from outsiders, is working on a serious way. What are you expecting in this case how they are handling your money? Maybe if you are customer from them you'll get an email once which tells you that during a programming mistake all your funds got lost, but BitGold is not guilty. Guilty is the external programming company.

My opinion is that a company, which is offering payment and investment services needs to make in each case a very serious impression otherwise they will not survive. Some people are so modest - they even don't accept reason.

It looks for me that they are struggeling with money because they are even not fixing their small problems. How long will it take in such a case that they would use customer funds for solving their problems? We have in German language a proverb which is translated into Enlish: "Opportunity makes the thief."

 

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BitGold Inc. - very suspicious - will they burst like a bubble?

by Rudolf Faix 24. July 2015 15:52

First of all BitGold is an official registered company. Only their own marketing, their own presentation on the Internet and the canvassing of their members makes this company very suspicious. Especially the misleading promises by aquiring new members found in the social networks are more destroying the image of a stock traded company than giving them a good reputation.

BitGold tries to be a copy from Paypal with the additional possibility to have a stock of gold. Gold has been from around 600 BC until the First World War the main currency. With other words BitGold tries to secure their members with a stock of gold, which can get used as a currency for payments by using the actual buy and sell prices.

For growing faster by getting more members they try to give you a commission for each new member which you get into the system. Together with their own system of different promotions, commission payments and the greediness and incapability to read of their members leads to misleading promotions by giving false promises. This fail shows that Joshua Crumb and Roy Sebag have a lot to learn about marketing, promotion and how to get and keep a good reputation.

Such a misleading promotion gets found on Facebook:

BitGold is the new and way better BitCoin check it out for yourself you get over $8 to join FREE!! and over $8 each referral that joins free watch the video below and then get your free money by joining http://BitGold.com/r/PHtH8C

Here is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZknYm6itS_I

see you all at http://BitGold.com/r/PHtH8C

True is like it is stated in the Golden Heart referral program:

Send this unique address to your friends via email, text message, Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn. When a friend signs up using your unique web address they receive 0.025 g ($0.87) grams of Gold and you receive 0.025 g ($0.87) grams of Gold instantly!*

* The Golden Heart(TM) referral program bonus may vary in each region and is subject to change without notice.

The above statement makes a company already unserious. It is like a lottery if you get something or not if you promote their service. As nowhere is written which countries are supported and how much you get for a promotion in each country is it nothing else than a teasing of their own members. They even have all option in this case to cheat. The phrase "The Golden Heart(TM) referral program bonus may vary in each region" looks for me like racism and is for me and in my view nothing else than a scam. As we know are scammers lazy, this company is even too greedy or too lazy for developing a system which is valid for the whole world. They are even too lazy to inform their members by email about some changes in the rules and have written "... and is subject to change without notice". That is for me already a reason for not making business with them. In Europe are such phrases useless and are invalid in front of the law court. A company can even get fined for such rules. Any changes in conditions have to get announced in an acceptable timeframe - mostly one month - before they are getting valid.

Three years ago Joshua Crumb has been a senior Global Metals Strategist at Goldman Sachs in London. All specialists are a more or less chaotic. I think that is the reason why we find the same chaos from their Golden Heart(TM) referral program very well documented in their company structure. That is looking for me more like a haphazard mess instead of a well-planned action:

BitGold has overtaken the GoldMoney platform from the billionaire Eric Sprott. With GoldMoney they bought 150,000 customers and more than 1.5 billion dollars in assets. These must now getting successfully integrated into one platform. At BusinessWire we can read the next change from BitGold Inc.: "The first step will be a name change of BitGold Inc. to GoldMoney Inc., subject to regulatory approval.". With this action they like to use the traditional name and the good reputation from GoldMoney Inc. We will see how long it will take until the reputation from GoldMoney will get destroyed too.

The web-based platform, which got created under the leadership of Joshua Crumb and Roy Sebag, makes the impression like she is still under development - especially if you are taking a look at it in German language. There you'll find a very bad translation of the content with a mix up of English messages and content. Even Google translate makes a better translation of the content.

BitGold bad translation

Especially the preselection of the language in the user section shows us that the site got cheap programmed in Eastern Europe, India or Russia. The possibility to have the site after log-in in English or German language is completely missing:

BitGold offered languages

The next failure on the website gives you the same impression that the Canadian address from BitGold Inc. is nothing else than only a post forwarding service. If you are following the link on the site Missing Golden Heart™ bonus (Last Updated: Jul 21, 2015 09:48AM EDT) at point 6

6. Your friend resides in a country where BitGold is currently not available. Click here to view our list of supported countries.

you'll get the next surprise:

BitGold support center

The above facts and the fact that I even did not get any answer from the customer service gives me the impression that their customers and members are not important - especially if they seem to be from a low wage country. That shows only the limited horizon in thinking from the owners and directors of Bitgold Inc. They seem not to understand that people from Europe and USA are enjoying their retirement time in Asian countries. These kinds of people are normally not really the poor ones.

My experience is that every company, which has been growing too fast, blurted like a bubble. The question is only how their customer and members are getting their gold in the case of a crash and how long it will take? It is much easier to speculate with the money from others as with your own.

 

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